A few new Mike Mangini video clips

[Omnidrums]

Go to the videos section. Download the ultra zone video first and go from there.

http://www.mikemangini.com/MMmm/main_flash2003.htm

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 02:57 AM: Message edited by: Omnidrums ]</font>

[wolfgang.at]

Thanks for the link !

Nice free hand technique on the ultra zone video.

[peter c]

Having seen/heard "Here and Now":

Mike Mangini is an incredible
player. There's so much economy
in his presentation. At the same
time, there's huge dynamic con-
trast even against the music he
normally plays, which seems "just
loud" to most who listen to him
but that's just not the whole
story. You have to LOOK at what
he's doing, how high he is off
the drums. Sometimes he's just
touching the drums, letting
them do the work.

I know that not everyone is
into heavy rock and metal. All
I can say is you have to get
past that somehow, when you're
looking at the instrument. A
good drummer is a good drummer
is a good drummer.

Mike shows us an application
for these deeply-etched rhythms
and let's remember that this is
almost 10 years ago.

He rides left. He rides right.
He is overdubbing his part and
of course, his time is perfect.
See him count during the pauses?
This is a great habit. He really
has great time.

I can see him now, addressing
the element of riding down the
toms, as opposed to up. Again,
his direction today is obvious.
Like Virgil, he's today leading
his stokes, from drum to drum
alternatively, strengthening
more and more, his left side.
Staggering and alternating the
sizes of the drums really helps
in developing this.

Watching a drummer like him
really opens up the possibil-
ities, physically and while I
might expect that someone
attack his musical contribut-
ion, I'm going to stand in
defense of him before the fact
and say that he did everything
right for the music AND for
the drums.

If you don't like him, it's the
music, not what he's doing. I
can see him tearing up in any
situation and look forward to
genre-crossing performances in
the future.

Thanks for the links. I will
check out the other ones later.

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 09:57 AM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>

[bouts]

hi,
what is this single hand technique, How he does that?? Does he play with the circle of ths snare?
very cool lick!!!

[FuseU1]

"Also, that circular motion in
the air, is related to the double-
stroke pattern he is alternating
from tom to snare. It's right (tom),
right (snare), left (tom), left
(snare) etc."

...sounds like the lick where it's a dbl-stroke roll divided up between the tom & snare by/in-between the individual strokes of each hand [that is, in between the dbl-stroke itself]. I first saw Rayford Griffin & others also doin this back in the mid-to-late 80's/early 90's.

Like you guys said about NP, & even moreso, his cymbals are way up/out there [like i used to have em back in the day]...you gotta know that this is for the "show" - visibility of hand motion for the crowds/audiences...he does not play w them at that far a reach these days.

I watched a little bit of the 1st vid on his site, but got disgusted & x'd out of it - because it's [un-]real player, which IMO is quite an awful little piece of software...quirky, stops & starts, pics not that good - light & dark, on & off...makes it hard to see what he's doin in time w the tune...ya gotta crank the vol on the recvr to here it, etc etc...why anyone would still wanna use unreal instead of say QT or WMP/WMV perplexes me....

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 02:39 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[peter c]

Tony did that in the mid-1970's.

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[FuseU1]

[img]wink.gif[/img] [- pete]

Mike is an incredible technician... he has great DB chops [AWA the hands], polyrhythmic capability, & the timing to go w it...
However, when i saw him in clinic he did this pseudo-jazz swing groove & it was extremely stiff...he can technically play the "stuff" within it well, but the feel is def that of a post progressive prog rock fusion one...very on the meter as opposed to feeling "loose & swingin"

But he's a GREAT drummer nonetheless...& this is matched by his attitude - proactivity & positiveness in teaching/life...he is great for the younger crowd AW.... [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 02:51 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[peter c]

When he focuses on it, he'll
get it. It's always about what
you emphasize and that's not
what he's emphasizing now.

You look at him and you go:
"He's got what it takes."

Now, what does he do with it?
Well, we can see what he's done
and that's cool. Let's hope for
our sake that he goes into jazz
and R&B more because he can
bring something to the table,
with the smallest effort, I think.

How many times I have heard and
said that?!

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 02:56 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>

[FuseU1]

[img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] Well put. There's no ? he DEF has "what it takes." [img]cool.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 24, 2003 03:08 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>

[buga]

Originally posted by bouts:
hi,
what is this single hand technique, How he does that?? Does he play with the circle of ths snare?
very cool lick!!!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The technique involves the opening and closing of the hand while letting the stick rebound with each open and close. Throw your hand open and let the stick rebound fully while your hand is still down, then close your hand (thus bringing the stick down for another hit) and let the stick rebound again with your hand into the up position. It's hard to teach it in text.

Jim Chapin's book touches on left hand stick control as applied in a jazz situation. I found this quite good for independence, speed and control. That's where JoJo Mayer got all his "stuff" including the moeller stroke which he incorporates to a great deal on the Modern Drummer 98 Drum Festival!